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Re: FOOD

Postby elblat » Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:46 pm

pmahnn wrote:tin foil shield


Someday you should try a real roasting. A lot more work to keep moist, but oh so better flavor! Beats the shit out of stewed bird.
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Re: FOOD

Postby pmahnn » Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:50 pm

What does a real roasting consist of?
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Re: FOOD

Postby elblat » Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:46 pm

Pat dry, stuff, coat with butter, sear at 450, then open air at 325 and basting the fuck out of it (every 10 minutes). Takes about six hours to do a 20lb bird, but worth it. My wife used to think she hated turkey, but she had only had tinfoil turkey or bag bird before.

If you neglect to baste, you will end up with turkey jerky...
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Re: FOOD

Postby Lox » Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:03 pm

Unless you go upside-down and brined... then it's moist to the edge and there is more than enough drippings to do the dressing and the gravy.

Seriously, after roasting several in the method Elblat suggests, I will never not brine a turkey unless I have to for some reason.
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Re: FOOD

Postby pmahnn » Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:06 pm

elblat wrote:Pat dry, stuff, coat with butter, sear at 450, then open air at 325 and basting the fuck out of it (every 10 minutes). Takes about six hours to do a 20lb bird, but worth it. My wife used to think she hated turkey, but she had only had tinfoil turkey or bag bird before.

If you neglect to baste, you will end up with turkey jerky...

Okay...so my method involved searing (at 500) without basting and it was exceptionally juicy and flavorful. Aromatics and brine. I'm not entirely certain why your method would be better, considering basting can actually add to moisture loss and uneven cooking.

Send samples.
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Re: FOOD

Postby elblat » Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:32 pm

LEAVE OFF THE FOIL, FOOL! (And never use a bag). This

Basting, despite your half-baked theories, does not lead to uneven cooking and moisture loss IRL. But it does take a lot longer and a lot more work.
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Re: FOOD

Postby Lox » Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:37 pm

The oven bag is best used for brining.
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Re: FOOD

Postby pmahnn » Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:38 pm

WTF bag?!

And still waiting on samples. This is 2009 it should be here by now!
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Re: FOOD

Postby skav » Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:39 pm

Best turkey ever is made of ham. Or lamb.
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Re: FOOD

Postby elblat » Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:40 pm

pmahnn wrote:WTF bag?!


Some people reportedly prefer the funky miasma. No one I have fed will admit it.

And still waiting on samples. This is 2009 it should be here by now!


Everybody done et them.
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Re: FOOD

Postby malachi » Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:46 pm

I didn't get shots of all 12 courses.
Here are some I did get.

egg custard with shaved white truffles and paprika potato crisp
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confit turkey leg
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turkey confit risotto
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fingerling potatoes with butter poached halibut and shaved white truffles
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pork belly (post cure, post braise, pre fry)
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beverages
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Re: FOOD

Postby elblat » Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:50 pm

skav wrote:Best turkey ever is made of ham. Or lamb.


Ham-fed turkey? So wrong it has to be right!
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Re: FOOD

Postby hweight » Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:08 pm

Predictable, but I must say it:

I'm having Thanksgiving dinner at malachi's next year.
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Re: FOOD

Postby Tronic » Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:39 pm

hweight wrote:Predictable, but I must say it:

I'm having Thanksgiving dinner at malachi's next year.


No kiddin!
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Re: FOOD

Postby malachi » Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:24 am

the full menu

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Re: FOOD

Postby skav » Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:55 am

You have menus printed?

That is the kind of yuppie you can appreciate. Do you have a separate garage/barn with a driveway significantly distant from your front door for your basketball hoop? Certainly a dedicated wine cellar room in your basement. What are your thoughts on wider sails running loose on small boats?
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Re: FOOD

Postby Lox » Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:19 am

If the term "fistfuls of stuffing" doesn't apply, you're doing it wrong.
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Re: FOOD

Postby malachi » Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:32 am

skav wrote:You have menus printed?

That is the kind of yuppie you can appreciate. Do you have a separate garage/barn with a driveway significantly distant from your front door for your basketball hoop? Certainly a dedicated wine cellar room in your basement. What are your thoughts on wider sails running loose on small boats?


nope (no garage, no driveway, no basketball hoop)
nope (no wine cellar room, no basement)
no idea what you're on about with sails loose on boats

menus printed?
fuck yeah.
12 years cooking in restaurants for a living.
I take PRIDE in what I do.
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Re: FOOD

Postby VTP » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:35 am

slow food with wine pairings ftmfw.

i get so full, and so drunk, yet...i dont...but i do...?
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Re: FOOD

Postby Tronic » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:43 am

Haha "ftmfw"! Dang that sounds good. We rode bikes to the thanksgiving meal and i had the "i get so full, and so drunk, yet...i dont...but i do...?" HICCUPS for half the ride home. I would like to have had some truffle burps. Just think of the poo hai ku possibilities with that meal!
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