'Merica

[toivo]

massive road trip- nova scotia--> quebec (val david, gatineau park SHUT DOWN or that would be a good one) ontario (niagra glen, , IGNACE --> feed up, then all the way to squamish. water solo at thunder bay. nice trad over lake superior. oh, and back aways, lions head,- then scoot on over to squamish.)

maybe winter the off season in moab. find a little cave to hole up in, go native over the winter, and climb on the warmest afternoons.

short season of bouldering over ice is now pretty much over here in northern ontario. the ice conditions are marginal at best, and a little bit wet here and there. rare time little cliffs over the lake.

[zirc]

haha

[toivo]

it's funny because it's kind of true. the dedicated east coast boulderers make their approach in rubber boots. the smart ones take a boat.

[blimp]

FUCK YEAH BOATS

[toivo]

indeed



and if there were boats-- even better

[dm]

It's on.

[600#gorilla]

squamish?

[KIX]

fact check: not 'Merica

[Lox]

I always wondered if people from other continents really sees the difference between different North American countries like we do...

[KIX]

well,....how do you view Africa?

[malachi]

on a map

duh

[dm]

I always wondered if people from other continents really sees the difference between different North American countries like we do...

Yes, we do.

Basic plan at this stage is fly into Vancouver (in Canada, which is a separate country to the US) in mid-September. Hang out with my buddy there, buy a van and climb at Squamish. Head down the west coast of the US from about mid October, going via Leavenworth (will the PNW be climbable that late in the year?), Yosemite, Bishop and Arizona to get to Hueco a bit before Christmas. Spend about 6 weeks in Hueco, then maybe head to El Potrero Chico for some chuffing (depending on whether a mate decides to head over and join me). Hit up some southern sandstone, then back to Austin for SXSW in March. Obviously I want to see the Grand Canyon and whatnot. What else? Utah? Vegas? Colorado?

Is it worth doing some chuffing around Vegas? Am I likely to be able to find a partner there if I'm rolling solo?

[600#gorilla]

i'm jealous of your imminent voyage and i'm already here.

[Lox]

well,....how do you view Africa?

Well, I am aware of the multiple countries that make up 'Frica... lulz.

DM... sounds epic. And BADass, man.

[evil temptress]

Hit up some southern sandstone, then back to Austin for SXSW in March.

You better come visit. We will not have to take a bus to get to climbing!

[blimp]

then maybe head to El Potrero Chico

i would skip that slabby chosspile if i were you. i hear el salto is way better.

[dm]

OK, thanks.

I'm just looking at google maps, and there's a place in Texas called Sugar Land. WTF.

[Lox]

Texas has hella wierd names. Dimebox. Muleshoe. Flower Mound. WTF?!?

I would basically skip Mexico altogether. It's a drug war shitshow down there right now and I haven't heard of any climbing that is SO INSPIRING you would want to risk it. You can find all the glued-up limestone spurtclimbing you could possibly want at American Fork or Rifle.

[VTP]

then maybe head to El Potrero Chico

i would skip that slabby chosspile if i were you. i hear el salto is way better.

disagree. its pretty amazing. there is lots of easy slabby huge multipitch for restdays BUT the outrage and meleski walls are pretty amazing. surfbowl, fitness cave have some pretty amazing tufas and 10 mins away the Culo de Gato crag is pretty incredible. Plus the vibe at those plush campsites is great, good cheap food and cheap mexican beers, nice soft grass to camp and there are cheap cheap rooms to rent. there is one hot mexican chick i can def recommend you avoid...bitch is CRAZY. El Salto is about two hours away and likely the best and most established single pitch.

But if youre on this side of the pond there is some goooood limestone cragging in mex.

[dm]

Tickets booked. I fly into Vancouver on 28 September, fly out of Austin on 21 March.

PSYCHED!