ScreamingMedic wrote:... and my lady climbing her first outdoor VB+
SPRAYLORD!!!!
ScreamingMedic wrote:... and my lady climbing her first outdoor VB+
600#gorilla wrote:i wish i could show you the good pix............
Rocco spots Kyle Mcfarland on another FA in the High Uinta while Jamie and Mary look on.
Tronic wrote:
Why can't we see the good pix? You sold the rights?
KIX wrote:Tronic wrote:
Why can't we see the good pix? You sold the rights?
.....and you split the proceeds evenly with all the climbers?
Imagine being a freelance photographer. . . Imagine being able to travel with the pros and visit exotic lands and see beautiful climbing areas and rich cultures. Now imagine the amount of money it requires to buy today’s photo equipment, the plane tickets, the external hard drives and the computers and editing software. Add up the fact that editorial page rates for photos within the climbing industry are in the hundreds (not thousands) of dollars.
Now think about the fact that in the US there are only four climbing magazines, and three of them have in-house photographers (fat cats) that work exclusively for those publications to provide all (or most) of the imagery in the magazines. Suddenly, the need for your photos dwindles and your ability to travel or purchase new equipment with the money you earned from your photos dwindles away with it. Freelancing isn’t so glamorous anymore is it?
These fat cats, on the other hand, do quite well, but not because they are more talented than freelance photographers, they just have found the loop hole.
These fat cats are given a small monthly budget from the magazines they work for, but what they are paid from the publication isn’t their concern. It’s the power. Their influence within the magazine allows them to (practically) dictate what photos go where in the layout. Often times, the contracted fat cat decides what photo goes on the cover and what image is used as a two-page spread.
What does this mean? Well, it means your photo isn’t making the cover, and it means that these fat cats hold a tremendous amount of leveraging power. Power that is wielded to make side deals with companies in an effort to make more money.
Here is how it works:
Mr. X is a contracted photographer with Acme Magazine. His job is to shoot 40% of the magazine’s content. Including one feature each issue. Since the magazine doesn’t have a photo editor, they let Mr. X give his input.
Mr. X is smart; he knows that companies want to have their athletes in the magazine. He also knows how valuable it is to have their products featured in the magazines within editorial content. See, Mr. X is privy to the knowledge that each one of these companies wants their athletes and their product on every page of the publication if they could. They could advertise more, but most can’t afford it, at least not at the rates the magazines charge.
Mr. X devises a plan: approach a company and see what they will pay for product placement in the magazine without the publisher’s knowledge. Mr. X’s thought is, If the magazine is charging a company $5 for a full-page ad, he can offer them a full page for $1, thus undercutting the magazine publisher allowing him to get paid twice for the same amount of work. Once an agreement is made, Mr. X then teams up with that company’s athletes, Mr. X dictates the photo placement within the magazine, and he then gets paid for what essentially amounts to an ad in the magazine. The best part for Mr. X is he is able to sell ads without paying staff to write or pay the exorbitant printing and contributor costs.
This is the dirty truth, and this practice is occurring right now in magazines covering a myriad of topics from climbing to consumer products. The question is, is it ok?
600#gorilla wrote:woulda been so much better with neon pants.
skav wrote:And the other half?
KIX wrote:my only wealth is the in the experineces I create for myself.
blimp wrote:
sikproj
600#gorilla wrote:i'm having a hard enough time with blurry pix as it is.
my two favorite lenses went down with backfocusing problems and i'm about to ship the whole kit to nikon to be re callibrated etcetera.
in nikon's defense - both lenses are around 10 years old and have been thoroughly mistreated.
post some pix.
i need inspiration.
600#gorilla wrote: oh stop bleating
merock wrote:If you take blurry pics with shitty point and shoots, everyone here will love your work. It's kind of fitting.
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